Mayke Kaag in Wat Als? Met Diederik Samsom en Mathijs Bouman

In this episode of Wat Als, the discussion revolves around the idea that North Africa could be the solution to Europe's challenges, such as aging populations, labor shortages, energy supply, and migration. While some view cooperation with North Africa as an opportunity, concerns remain about controversial migration deals and a neo-colonial perspective. Mayke Kaag (Professor of the Anthropology of Politics and Governance in Africa at the Institute of Cultural Anthropology and Development Sociology  on behalf of the African Studies Centre Leiden) emphasizes the need for caution, as this approach risks reinforcing old power dynamics.

The podcast can be listened to here.